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ཀ་ཡེ། Dobum་ལགས། ཁྱེད་རང་ལྦེ་ཁེ་བོད་ཡིག་མ་རུ་ཕེབས་པར་welcome་དང་ཁྱེད་ཀྱིས་བཞག་པའི་བྱས་རྗེས་ལ་སྙིང་ཐག་པ་ནས་བཀའ་དྲིན་ཆེ་ཞུ། ངའི་རེ་བར་ཁྱེད་རང་གནས་འདི་ལ་དགའ་ཞེན་དང་རྒྱུན་དུ་ཕེབས་པར་ཞུ། གཤམ་དུ་གསལ་བ་ནི་གསར་ཞུགས་མཁན་དག་ལ་ཉེ་བར་མཁོ་བའི་སྦྲེལ་མཐུད་ཡིན།

ཁྱེད་ཀྱིས་འདི་རུ་རྩོམ་སྒྲིག་མཛད་པར་སྤྲོ་པོ་ཡོང་རྒྱུ་དང་ལྦེ་ཁེ་བ་ཞིག་བྱ་རྒྱུ་ནི་ངའི་རེ་བ་ཡིན། དེ་བས་གླེང་མོལ་ཤོག་ངོས་ཀྱི་སྟེང་དུ་མིང་ཐོ་བཀོད་འདོད་ན་རླབས་རིས་བཞིའི་(~~~~)རྟགས་བཀོལ་ན་ཁྱེད་ཀྱི་མིང་དང་ཟླ་ཚེས་རང་འགུལ་གྱིས་སྦྱར་ཡོང་། གལ་ཏེ་ཁྱེད་ལ་རོགས་རམ་དགོས་ན་ en:Wikipedia:Where to ask a questionརུ་ཕེབས་ནས་དྲི་བ་འདོན་ཆོག་པ་ལས་གཞན་ངའི་གླེང་མོལ་ཤོག་ངོས་སུ་ང་ལ་དྲི་བ་འདོན་པའམ་ཡང་ན་{{helpme}} རང་གི་གླེང་མོལ་ཤོག་ངོས་སུ་བཞག་ན་ཅུང་མི་འགོར་བར་མི་གཞན་ཞིག་གིས་ཁྱེད་ལ་ལན་འདེབས་ངེས། ཁྱེད་རང་ཕེབས་པར་ཡང་བསྐྱར་དུ་དགའ་བསུ་ཞུ། --Jose77 ༠༢:༠༩, ༡༩ ཟླ་ལྔ་བ། ༢༠༠༨ (UTC)[reply]

See Wikipedia:Administrators --Viskonsas ༡༢:༣༠, ༡༠ ཟླ་བཞི་བ། ༢༠༠༨ (UTC)[reply]

You can also add the template {{User bo}} to your userpage, if you're native Tibetan speaker. That would be the proof to other wikipedians that you're surely able to write fluently in Tibetan --Viskonsas ༡༢:༥༨, ༡༠ ཟླ་བཞི་བ། ༢༠༠༨ (UTC)[reply]

Hi! Thanks for your contributions. But as for template {{User bo}}, the text "This user is a native speaker of Tibetan" needs to be translated first (You can translate it here, or in my userpage talk if you haven not already been skilled here yet). Well, as for words "lang, name, level, size" - I don't think they should be translated, because the translation of these files would mess other language templates. --Viskonsas ༡༦:༢༤, ༡༠ ཟླ་བཞི་བ། ༢༠༠༨ (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much for big contributions here. You can create, edit and expand articles here. Any constructive work here is very useful for this wikipedia. No, I am not sysop yet, but maybe one day I'll become one. It's only 1 sysop here, so it's really too little, I think :) If you want, you could translate the rest of the templates relating to Tibetan language: {{User bo-1}}, {{User bo-2}}, {{User bo-3}}, {{User bo-4}}, {{User bo-5}}. By the way, the translation of the templates {{User bo}}, {{User bo-0}} is really great job, and the main page is now easier to read. Thank you. --Viskonsas ༡༩:༢༥, ༡༢ ཟླ་བཞི་བ། ༢༠༠༨ (UTC)[reply]

hi! thank you. It shouldn't mess the templates unless it sounds strange. Do your translations "sound" normally? If so, we shouldn't worry about that. Moreover, I will contact some inactive Tibetans here and ask for verification (I know User:ཨ་མའི་ལོ་ལོ། is native Tibetan, but less than semi-active here, Users User:ཞི་བདེ, User:གླིང་སྨྱོན, or User:Amilolo are also probably native Tibetan speakers... But it takes time to get an answer from them. By the way, I'm running for Wikipedia:Requests for adminship, so if you support me, please vote. Your vote is very important. :) Thank You. --Viskonsas ༡༤:༣༣, ༡༣ ཟླ་བཞི་བ། ༢༠༠༨ (UTC)[reply]

As for the works here, you could check if there are any gibberish files in this category. --Viskonsas ༡༤:༣༣, ༡༣ ཟླ་བཞི་བ། ༢༠༠༨ (UTC)[reply]

Thank You very much for support. The fact that your friends verificated these translations leaves no doubt that these translations are correct :) I'm happy to see your very constructive work here :) By the way, what is this article about? One day we should arrange categories. But that will need much deleting, which can be done only by sysops. As for now, could you translate those 2 sentences on the top of this article, and the name of that article as well? Thank You. --Viskonsas ༡༥:༢༣, ༡༣ ཟླ་བཞི་བ། ༢༠༠༨ (UTC)[reply]

By the way, do you use any messaging programs? We could easier discuss things by using them. --Viskonsas ༡༦:༡༢, ༡༣ ཟླ་བཞི་བ། ༢༠༠༨ (UTC)[reply]

Thank You. I'll contact You when I have time. --Viskonsas ༡༧:༡༨, ༡༣ ཟླ་བཞི་བ། ༢༠༠༨ (UTC)[reply]

Hi! I'm online now :) --Viskonsas ༡༧:༤༥, ༡༣ ཟླ་བཞི་བ། ༢༠༠༨ (UTC)[reply]

Translations

Hello, Dobum. Is the translation for "countries" correct - ལུང་པ་། or ལུང་པ་ཙོ? There are many articles about countries, so it's very important. བཀའ་དྲིན་ཆེ།! --Viskonsas ༡༩:༥༠, ༤ ཟླ་ལྔ་བ། ༢༠༠༨ (UTC)[reply]

Re Translations

hi,Viskonsas.for my knowlege "countries"'s transaltion in tibetan should be "རྒྱལ་ཁབ།", not "ལུང་པ་། orལུང་པ་ཙོ".ལུང་པ། is stand for small region. for example, before 1951, tibet is country"རྒྱལ་ཁབ།", not a unit of local government ="ལུང་པ་། " "ལུང་པ་ཙོ" got gramma mistakes."ཙོ"is meanless in modern tibetan language. it is probable an accent or used in Bhutan tibetan language. "ཚོ"should be correct plural word for this if they follow the grammal. but this plural not porper for places, it is for people mainly.

Thank You. --Viskonsas ༡༣:༢༦, ༧ ཟླ་ལྔ་བ། ༢༠༠༨ (UTC)[reply]

Articles with bad titles

I have noticed that all articles in have mistakes in their titles. Could you check those articles and tell me if there are normal text in them please? They may be the candidates for deletion :/ Thank You. --Viskonsas ༡༣:༢༦, ༧ ཟླ་ལྔ་བ། ༢༠༠༨ (UTC)[reply]

Re Articles with bad titles

could you give me the delete template, i can't find those command, and can you all template all in one page?--YungDrunRenChin ༠༨:༣༦, ༨ ཟླ་ལྔ་བ། ༢༠༠༨ (UTC)[reply]

See Wikipedia:སྒྲོམ་གཞི།. Just add {{delete}} if you want that any article would be deleted. --Viskonsas ༡༥:༥༩, ༨ ཟླ་ལྔ་བ། ༢༠༠༨ (UTC)[reply]

Unconstructive(?) edits

Dear Dobum, I do not know what is going on, but some of your contributions were deleted [༡]. You also have blanked 2 files. I cannot understand your changes. Please explain me what is going on. Thank You. --Viskonsas ༡༦:༣༥, ༡༤ ཟླ་ལྔ་བ། ༢༠༠༨ (UTC)[reply]

it is ok, i am testing, those are shoud be clean up! and one more thing, what you suggesion on about shad "།" is good. we should balance those two thing in what you said away, like example plz see changes in source code.and i imporved some templates-bo --dobum ༠༢:༥༦, ༡༥ ཟླ་ལྔ་བ། ༢༠༠༨ (UTC)[reply]

Request for Help, please

Greetings Dobum,

Nice to meet you.

Could you kindly help me write this article into the unique and fabulous Tibetan unicode script? (because it is currently in jpeg format). Please! Please! Please!

(In return I can help you translate your favourite articles into the Chinese or Taiwanese language).

Yours Sincerely, --Jose77 ༠༤:༢༥, ༡༨ ཟླ་ལྔ་བ། ༢༠༠༨ (UTC)[reply]

THANKYOU SO MUCH Dobum for your Excellent Transcription help and effort!

I am very very Grateful.

May God Bless you!

Yes, there are many obvious translation errors in that article so feel free to correct any mistakes whenever you find them.

(That article was translated two years ago through the help of a Tibetan living in Canada; however she was not Christian and did not have Tibetan unicode, therefore she had very little knowledge on how to translate many of the Christian vocabulary and terminology).

By the way, here is the original English version of the article.

Your help is very Gratefully Appreciated.

Yours Sincerely, From --Jose77 ༠༢:༠༧, ༡༩ ཟླ་ལྔ་བ། ༢༠༠༨ (UTC)[reply]

Please keep contributing this Wikipedia. Thank you. --Viskonsas ༡༡:༠༩, ༥ ཟླ་བདུན་པ། ༢༠༠༨ (UTC)[reply]

Articles

The article མཚོ་སྔོན་ཞིང་ཆེན། lacks interwiki links and doesn't belong to any category. Please let me know what is this article about, so that I would be able to put it to an appropriate category. Thank you. Good luck. --Viskonsas ༡༣:༢༩, ༡༤ ཟླ་བདུན་པ། ༢༠༠༨ (UTC)[reply]

I have done what you requested. Now could you translate the blanked text in the article ཟླ། and answer my question: Talk:མཚོ་སྔོན་ཞིང་ཆེན།? --Viskonsas ༡༤:༥༧, ༡༤ ཟླ་བདུན་པ། ༢༠༠༨ (UTC)[reply]

སེལ་འོ་སུ་འན་གྱི་སྐད should belong to category, such as Category:Languages. Thank you. --Viskonsas ༡༡:༤༦, ༢༡ ཟླ་བདུན་པ། ༢༠༠༨ (UTC)[reply]

Important discussions

I have 3 questions: Talk:བེད་འོད་ནི་འ་སིས།, Talk:ཟླ།, Talk:གཅན་ཚ. Thank you. --Viskonsas ༡༣:༤༡, ༡༦ ཟླ་བདུན་པ། ༢༠༠༨ (UTC)[reply]

Translation request

The translation request
Hi! Could I ask you to translate the article which you can find below into Tibetan? Please help me to show our language to the world – the article is quite short and has been selected from English and Silesian article and shortened as possible to contain only the basic informations. If you would finish, please, make me know on my Silesian or Polish discussion. Thanks in advance.
PS. If you want me to translate any article into Polish or Silesian, contact me without hesistation.
So, here’s the text to translation:

The Silesian language (Silesian: ślůnsko godka, ślůnski, sometimes also pů našymu) is a language spoken by people in the Upper Silesia region in Poland, but also in Czech Republic and Germany. In 2002 about 56 000 declared Silesian as their native language, but the number of speakers is estimated on 1 250 000.

Silesian is closely related to Polish language, that’s why it is considered as a dialect of Polish by some linguistics. སེལ་འོ་སུ་འན་གྱི་སྐད(Silesian: ślůnsko godka, ślůnski, མཚམས་ལ་རེར་ད་དུང pů našymu) ནི་ཕོ་ལན་རྒྱལ་ཁབ་ཀྱི་སེལ་འོ་སུ་འན་ས་ཁུལ་གྱི་མིས་ཤོད་བཞིན་པའི་སྐད་ཆ་ཞིག་ཡིན། དེ་ལས་གཞན་ད་དུང་ཆད་སི་ཁོ་སྤྱི་མཐུན་རྒྱལ་ཁབ་དང་འཇར་མན་དུ་སྐད་འདི་འཆད་མཁན་ཡོད། སྤྱི་ལོ 2002 སེད་འོ་སུ་འན་གྱི་མི 56 000 ཉེ་བ་ཙམ་གྱི་སེལ་འོ་སུ་འན་གྱི་སྐད་ཁོ་ཚོས་ཕ་སྐད་ཡིན་པར་ཁྱབ་བསྒྲགས་བྱས། འོན་ཀྱང་ཚོད་དཔག་ལྟར་ན་མི་གྲངས 1 250 000 ཉེ་བ་ཙམ་གྱི་སྐད་འདི་རྒྱག་བཞིན་ཡོད། སེལ་འོ་སུ་འན་ནི་ཕོ་ལན་སྐད་དང་ཉེ་ལ་དེའི་རྐྱེན་གྱི་སྐད་རིགས་སྨྲ་བ་ཚོས་སྐད་འདི་ཕོ་ལན་སྐད་གྱི་ནང་གསེས་ཡུལ་སྐད་ཅིག་ལ་ངོས་འཛིན་གྱི་ཡོད།

Alphabet

There’s not one Silesian alphabet. The Silesian speakers are used to write their language with the Polish characters. In 2006 was invented the new Silesian alphabet, based on all of the Silesian scripts (there’s 10 of them). It is widely used on the Internet, as well as in the Silesian Wikipedia.

Aa Bb Cc Ćć Čč Dd Ee Ff Gg Hh Ii Jj Kk Ll Mm Nn Ńń Oo Pp Rr Řř Ss Śś Šš Tt Uu Ůů Ww Yy Zz Źź Žž

And some digraphs: Ch Dz Dź Dž.

External links

Thank you once again, Timpul ༡༠:༡༨, ༡༦ ཟླ་བདུན་པ། ༢༠༠༨ (UTC)[reply]

PS. I love your Tibetan script ;)

Translations

I found out that the word "English language" in Tibetan is དབྱིན་སྐད། ([༢]), but you told me it was དབྱིན་ཇིའི་སྐད།. What is the difference between those meanings? --Viskonsas ༡༣:༤༡, ༡༦ ཟླ་བདུན་པ། ༢༠༠༨ (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for ཟླ།. Now could you please check the sentence structure of this article. The word "calendar" is in the end. It must sound weird. --Viskonsas ༠༩:༥༣, ༡༨ ཟླ་བདུན་པ། ༢༠༠༨ (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for longer article about Hong Kong ཞང་ཀང་།. However, it needs to be expanded by adding more links to other articles (I hope you get what I mean :)) When you see bad article nex time,just write the following in it - {{delete}}. You can also see every new edit here: [༣] (you should check that link everytime you log in here) and see random articles of this wikipedia here: [༤]. Good luck. --Viskonsas ༡༢:༠༩, ༢༢ ཟླ་བདུན་པ། ༢༠༠༨ (UTC)[reply]

སེལ་འོ་སུ་འན་གྱི་སྐད, བོད་སྐད་། should belong to category, such as Category:Languages. Thank you. --Viskonsas ༡༣:༡༣, ༢༣ ཟླ་བདུན་པ། ༢༠༠༨ (UTC)[reply]

Dobum, you are now quite experienced user, so please be more careful when creating new articles about countries (~50% articles in this wikipedia are about countries). If you do not know how to rename currently existing article, please let me know and I will explain to you. The article about France had currently existed (ཧྥ་རན་སི) before you created a new one (ཧྥ་རན་སི།). Now those articles have to be merged and that causes some trouble for us. I also want to say I am going to create Image:How to move page en 01.JPG and I am going to create an article about it. So maybe this image will help you.

I also have another 2 questions, they are less important than the first one, but do not take them easy :) You suggested me to delete བོད་སྐད་།. But I cannot understand why - it must be the word for "Tibetan language". It is even used in English and other wikipedias when talking about Tibetan "Tibetan (བོད་སྐད་)" - it is written there.

The 3rd thing (it is not a question actually) is that yesterday I have noticed new Tibetan wikipedian who seems good at Tibetan, but probably does not understand English well (User talk:Phurpu). Please encourage him to contribute here. Tibetan wiki needs more active users. བཀའ་དྲིན་ཆེ།

That's all. Those were friendly suggestions, seeking for more qualitative wikipedia. --Viskonsas ༡༢:༢༤, ༢༥ ཟླ་བདུན་པ། ༢༠༠༨ (UTC)[reply]

I understood. But if you have already understood how to rename a page, please rename all the articles that lacks shad in the title. Please go to [༥], so that you will see all the pages of this wikipedia. If you have any questions, please ask. --Viskonsas ༡༣:༠༤, ༢༨ ཟླ་བདུན་པ། ༢༠༠༨ (UTC)[reply]

Thankyou

Thanks Dobum for your awesome translation help! I am very Grateful.

I have helped create an article about the Tibetan people in the Minnan language Here --Jose77 ༠༡:༡༣, ༢༠ ཟླ་དགུ་བ། ༢༠༠༩ (UTC)[reply]

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Hi. Happy New Year for you too. It's been a while. I will try to answer your question by asking wikimedia stewards. They might now this stuff. --Viskonsas ༡༥:༥༢, ༡༧ ཟླ་གསུམ། ༢༠༡༠ (UTC)[reply]

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Hello, I can help translate this article. Thanks: Peter of Saint Joseph Betancur.--79.155.93.5 ༡༧:༥༧, ༢ ཟླ་ལྔ་བ། ༢༠༡༣ (UTC)[reply]